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lark's head knot slipping by Bugfiend 7 years ago

I've started making all of my bracelets with a buckle because I feel like it makes them look neater but after I make the lark's head knot and start knotting to make the actual buckle it slips up on the threads. I keep having to pull it back in the right spot and if any of the threads fall out I have to undo the whole thing and start over. Does this happen to other people too? I knot really tightly so that might be part of the problem.

RE: lark's head knot slipping by kleinevos (moderator) 7 years ago

You can make more knots and push them closer together before starting the pattern.
I don't know what you mean by the threads falling out though. Can you show a picture?

RE: lark's head knot slipping by EdBlair 7 years ago

When you are tightening the knots in the buckle, one hand holds the string you are working with, and the other should hold BOTH sides of the buckle. This way you are putting tension on both sides and the strings won't slip as much.
I assume that the threads that are falling out are the ones that are only used on one side of the bracelet. To help your problem, position the string so it extends at least a half inch past the end of the buckle. This way you have some room to play with, and enough to get a good grip. You will trim the end after you make the bracelet.

RE: lark's head knot slipping by EdBlair 7 years ago

Two additional tricks to consider: make the buckle multi-colored and tying the left and right sides evenly.
- Rather than make the entire buckle from a single string, I will tie a few knots, then switch to a different string. The one that was on the outside becomes one of the inside strings. A side benefit is that the center strings are less likely to slip, at least after a few colors have been added, because some of them are anchored to the outside.
- By tying evenly I mean tie a few knots on one side, then switch to the other. I usually do this when I switch colors. Switching back and forth also helps you keep track of where your center is.

RE: lark's head knot slipping by Siurell 7 years ago

How I do loops. When I have all the threads I doubled over and took one of the threads and make the lark's knot, I take this half and one of the threads of the lark's knot, I make a soft knot and fix it on my work table. Then with the other thread of the lark's knot I make half knot, one above and one below until what I want. Change the blok wires and do like before with the other half and when is finished it looks like a scomb. To continue make a square knot, directly start the pattern or other options.

RE: lark's head knot slipping by Bugfiend 7 years ago

Kleinevos- http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8176/8072328044_2f7a9b2c75.jpg this link is from a tutorial on this site because I don't have my phone with me, but this is what i mean when I say threads slip out. Its only when i use a pattern with two loose threads, but its still annoying :P

The buckle slips before I start the pattern, like the initial knot will slip up the threads while I'm trying to make the buckle.


Edlair- I'll have to try making a multi-colored one! I think the problem probably is with how tight i like to make bracelets, so I'll try putting more tension on the opposite side while I'm tightening the knots.

RE: lark's head knot slipping by kleinevos (moderator) 7 years ago

I think what EdBlair says will help you.
I always make an overhand knot with all of the strings after making the first larkshead. Then I take a clipboard and put the knot under the clip. I never have strings coming out of it that way, and I can pull the larks heads very tight.
When there are enough larkshead knots I undo the overhand knot and start my pattern. All strings are tightly secured in the buckle. Leaving enough at the other end, like EdBlair says, is always a good idea. Just to be sure.

RE: lark's head knot slipping by Jazzy5252 7 years ago

I'm not sure if this helps but I secure my start under a clipboard or bulldog clip when I start knotting as it helps hold the tension and the knots don't slip but what kleinevos and EdBlair said is also really helpful.

RE: lark's head knot slipping by Allison98 7 years ago

I sometimes like to start my bracelets like this: https://www.friendship-bracelets.net/tutorial.php?id=5289 so it's basically a chevron beginning (but it's usually straight, not in a chevron) to organize the strings. I knot tightly but don't usually have that problem.

RE: lark's head knot slipping by EdBlair 7 years ago

I actually tie my buckles with the bracelet not attached to anything. That way I can adjust my grip as I proceed. Only after the buckle is complete do I attach it to my work surface.

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