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Swastikas? Or? by Stefan (moderator) 15 years ago

Hello! I just got a message saying that patterns #64 and #65 are like swastikas and should be deleted for that reason. What do you think? Here are direct links to the patterns:

http://www.steffe.se/fb/pattern.php?id=65
http://www.steffe.se/fb/pattern.php?id=64

RE: Swastikas? Or? by wilwarin 15 years ago

these are not natzi swastikas so i think they shouldn't be deleted... i'm an archaeologist and these are solar symbols that you can find all over prehistory stuff and i made one of those patterns not to represent natzi stuff (which i totally despise and sentence) i did it for my archaeology project... that's why i'm not for deleting it b

RE: Swastikas? Or? by wilwarin 15 years ago

but from the other side most people don't know real meaning of swastikas and difference between natzi swastika and hindi swastika for example...

and sorry for posting twice but i posted first one by mistake without finishing it :)

RE: Swastikas? Or? by therapycase 15 years ago

i think you should keep them but make sure you dont have them in nazi colors or anything in pictures. they are close to swastikas but not close enough that i feel offended or anything

RE: Swastikas? Or? by elvenwanderer 15 years ago

I thought they looked like swastikas the first time I saw them, but then I took a second look and decided they weren't.

I say keep them.

RE: Swastikas? Or? by Olympe 15 years ago

Well, the overall effect is that of swastikas, although the middle part is not the joining of the two axes as in the nazi symbol. Still, the first impression is the same, so I'd say that deleting them can't be wrong, just in case.

RE: Swastikas? Or? by Stefan (moderator) 15 years ago

I think most peoples thoughts wander to swastikas because they don't know anything about these solar symbols in archeology as wilwarin tells us about. It's easier to relate to swastikas.

I do not see them as nazi swastikas. Not solar symbols either before I got to know about the solar symbols :)

Still I feel pity about the poor girl that wrote 'Please remove the swastikas...' in a PM in the guestbook... I'll think about it.

Here are some solar symbols by the way:
http://www.cultinfo.ru/fulltext/1/001/001/073/5-44.gif

And some more...
http://www.addictlab.com/labfiles/creatives/Sun_Symbol_by_Wanda_Tuerlinckx.jpg

And here you can read about the solar symbols (on this page, they have the notation "ancient art swastikas" for the solar symbols we are talking about):
http://www.midwesternepigraphic.org/swastika01.html

RE: Swastikas? Or? by Olympe 15 years ago

Of course it's true that the nazis sort of 'borrowed' the swastika from more ancient cultures - cultures they deigned below their own, btw. Still it's true that swastikas - and any other similar designs - are overshadowed by their use by the nazis. Thus, I'd be rather careful with any sun-symbols looking even remotely like the swastika used by Hitler and his henchmen.

RE: Swastikas? Or? by crimsonkat 15 years ago

the meaning of swastickas were screwed bup by the nazis. the original meaning was to mean peace, happiness, etc. but, the nazis began to use it and gave it a bad reputation.

RE: Swastikas? Or? by usr362 15 years ago

yeah..as the first dude say, they are solar signs. the natzi swastikas join in the middle, as you can see..in the patterns shown there..they don't . so it's a solar sign. no natzi thing. i'm a jew so i can tell this things. school teaches well.

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